Posts by THE GLADIATOR

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It makes no sense whatsoever that a" CREATOR" would only communicate with a minority of the population then put the onus on them to convey this life saving message to the WHOLE wide world

by smiddy in

i now find it idiotic that i could ever beleive the bible to be the inspired word of god.....,throughout the bible "god"has only dealt with a few of his favoured spokespersons to deliver his messages to a minority populace.individuals at first,..... then, patriarchs,nomads,a small nation,ignoring all other nations that had sprung up.......,abandoning his chosen nation,sending his "son"to a small nation, only giving them his pearls of wisdom,much of what was not even recorded for prosperity and remember he never wrote a word,it was left up to other imperfect humans to record what he was supposed to have said,just a smidgen......,again ignoring the bulk of humankind keeping them in ignorance of his plan for universal salvation,leaving it all up to imperfect humans to spread this message of salvation, whom he has already condemned for their sinfullness and disobedience.i just find it so unbeleivable.

in the 6000 years of recorded history only a fraction of the earths population,maybe less than a third have ever heard of the god of the bible, or his so called plan to redeem humankind ,thats millions and millions of people.

( india,arabic,afghanistan,pakistan etc.etc.).

THE GLADIATOR

tec “I don't think I ever said what I believe about Adam and Eve. In truth, I am not sure. I have agreed that these COULD be allegorical people, or literal people, or a combination of the two (everyone/thing in that story represents something else, or some such version), or something I don't know about.”

That just about covers all bases and leaves room for an entirely different game - evolution or even atheism perhaps? At this rate, God could simply be a mistranslation for Dog that wandered around Eden barking at naked people, literally, allegorically, or a combination of the two.

I have tried to follow this debate but am unable to find a single comment that actually answers the question posed by the opening question; hence my reluctance to fully engage in serious debate - my apologies for interrupting. Please carry on.

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Theists - Please Explain This.......

by AK - Jeff in

and please don't do so with the standard "i don't know the answer - but there surely must be one.

" or some other lame attempt to defend god/bible without a real explanation.. here goes:.

i find it incredibly interesting how hard the mind works to prevent rational thought when it suits it's purpose.

THE GLADIATOR

tec " No one is totally rational, imo."

This is true and no one really wants to be totally rational and live entirely without illusion. If we did that we would never again get engrossed in a fictional book or film. In order to enjoy life we sometimes have to suspend our rationality and go with the flow. To accept other people that we are close to, we have to embrace their essence and accept their quirky thinking. People do this for me but I pretend not to notice.

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It makes no sense whatsoever that a" CREATOR" would only communicate with a minority of the population then put the onus on them to convey this life saving message to the WHOLE wide world

by smiddy in

i now find it idiotic that i could ever beleive the bible to be the inspired word of god.....,throughout the bible "god"has only dealt with a few of his favoured spokespersons to deliver his messages to a minority populace.individuals at first,..... then, patriarchs,nomads,a small nation,ignoring all other nations that had sprung up.......,abandoning his chosen nation,sending his "son"to a small nation, only giving them his pearls of wisdom,much of what was not even recorded for prosperity and remember he never wrote a word,it was left up to other imperfect humans to record what he was supposed to have said,just a smidgen......,again ignoring the bulk of humankind keeping them in ignorance of his plan for universal salvation,leaving it all up to imperfect humans to spread this message of salvation, whom he has already condemned for their sinfullness and disobedience.i just find it so unbeleivable.

in the 6000 years of recorded history only a fraction of the earths population,maybe less than a third have ever heard of the god of the bible, or his so called plan to redeem humankind ,thats millions and millions of people.

( india,arabic,afghanistan,pakistan etc.etc.).

THE GLADIATOR

tec "But too many people would rather BE served, and so they don't listen."

I think I have been rumbled.

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It makes no sense whatsoever that a" CREATOR" would only communicate with a minority of the population then put the onus on them to convey this life saving message to the WHOLE wide world

by smiddy in

i now find it idiotic that i could ever beleive the bible to be the inspired word of god.....,throughout the bible "god"has only dealt with a few of his favoured spokespersons to deliver his messages to a minority populace.individuals at first,..... then, patriarchs,nomads,a small nation,ignoring all other nations that had sprung up.......,abandoning his chosen nation,sending his "son"to a small nation, only giving them his pearls of wisdom,much of what was not even recorded for prosperity and remember he never wrote a word,it was left up to other imperfect humans to record what he was supposed to have said,just a smidgen......,again ignoring the bulk of humankind keeping them in ignorance of his plan for universal salvation,leaving it all up to imperfect humans to spread this message of salvation, whom he has already condemned for their sinfullness and disobedience.i just find it so unbeleivable.

in the 6000 years of recorded history only a fraction of the earths population,maybe less than a third have ever heard of the god of the bible, or his so called plan to redeem humankind ,thats millions and millions of people.

( india,arabic,afghanistan,pakistan etc.etc.).

THE GLADIATOR

"People don't even understand the written word."

It is true to say that I do struggle to understand some of your written words, Dr-Ew

But, then being a sinner, I don’t have god’s sprit to help me.

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Theists - Please Explain This.......

by AK - Jeff in

and please don't do so with the standard "i don't know the answer - but there surely must be one.

" or some other lame attempt to defend god/bible without a real explanation.. here goes:.

i find it incredibly interesting how hard the mind works to prevent rational thought when it suits it's purpose.

THE GLADIATOR

AK - Jeff

I find it incredibly interesting how hard the mind works to prevent rational thought when it suits it's purpose. It seems capable of any level of cognitive hide and seek, in order to escape rationality/believe myths to be history.

This how the human mind works, not just with religion but also how we choose to remember events, conversations and arguments. The mind is a tool that works hard to keep an emotional equilibrium and balance in our individual world.

The mind is capable of great treachery. To be totally rational takes many years of training. Total rationality can take us out of our comfort zone. So in order to enjoy our lives we have to develop and employ the art of compromise.

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It makes no sense whatsoever that a" CREATOR" would only communicate with a minority of the population then put the onus on them to convey this life saving message to the WHOLE wide world

by smiddy in

i now find it idiotic that i could ever beleive the bible to be the inspired word of god.....,throughout the bible "god"has only dealt with a few of his favoured spokespersons to deliver his messages to a minority populace.individuals at first,..... then, patriarchs,nomads,a small nation,ignoring all other nations that had sprung up.......,abandoning his chosen nation,sending his "son"to a small nation, only giving them his pearls of wisdom,much of what was not even recorded for prosperity and remember he never wrote a word,it was left up to other imperfect humans to record what he was supposed to have said,just a smidgen......,again ignoring the bulk of humankind keeping them in ignorance of his plan for universal salvation,leaving it all up to imperfect humans to spread this message of salvation, whom he has already condemned for their sinfullness and disobedience.i just find it so unbeleivable.

in the 6000 years of recorded history only a fraction of the earths population,maybe less than a third have ever heard of the god of the bible, or his so called plan to redeem humankind ,thats millions and millions of people.

( india,arabic,afghanistan,pakistan etc.etc.).

THE GLADIATOR

The number of people that God can communicate with at any one time is entirely dependent on how many people imagine they are hearing from God.

The appeal of religious assemblies is that once group hypnosis kicks in, the shared experience is proof to believers that God exists and communicates with them.

The concept of God is as alive as we choose to allow it to be in our individual mind. Believers don’t believe me, which means they are actually non-believers.

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Elder ordered a violent beating, man died. Still not disfellowshipped.

by snare&racket in

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friends

THE GLADIATOR

George you have nailed it!

That’s the elder - the one on the left - and his weird looking weird look girlfriend in a suit. God damn it!

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Are you a pecker?

by keyser soze in

jw
friends

or do your fingers move fluidly across the keyboard when you type?.

i admit, i'm far more proficient with letters than i am with numbers and symbols..

THE GLADIATOR

I have a pecker and I am willing to discuss that with you - but my typing is none of your business.

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How did you visualize Jehovah when you were young?

by Matsimus in

i was born as a third generation (perhaps even fourth gen. but my great great grandfather never got baptized) jw.

i remember that when i was young, perhaps about five years old, i would think about jehovah as this big black ghost with yellow eyes.

to me he was quite frightening, and i was constantly catious not to piss him off.

THE GLADIATOR

Looking back now, from my ivory tower, I now realize that I did not truly believe in the bastard in the sky. I sought to please my family; they sought to please their god and gain everlasting life.

Being a child I confused the two. Now I see clearly, unlike the dim sighted apostle (saint) Paul. Oh! The angust.

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Atheists, Agnostics or Theists .... So Who's Happiest?

by 00DAD in

a couple of years ago, a psychologist i know made the off-handed comment that there is conclusive evidence that "atheists are not as happy as the ordinary, average person?

we tossed that subject around for a few minutes and then moved on to something else.

at the time, i didn't think too much about it.

THE GLADIATOR

"In my opinion, "believers" simply cannot perceive a state of NON-belief... "

Believers in the existence of God, are disbelievers in the non-existence of a god. So they are in fact themselves, disbelievers.

They also reject hundreds of other people’s gods in favour of their god, which they give a capital letter to, in an attempt to infer that it is - The only God. Why can there not be hundreds of gods? Believers are, in fact, the ultimate disbelievers.